Hello John,

Yesterday I spent much of the day riding in the open, upperdeck of a 
big red bus touring NYC.  It was a very strange experience.  I did see some 
beautiful buildings which I would never have seen from the ground.  Ground 
Zero was a zero, imho.  I would have rather gone to the MoMA, or the 
Metropolitan, or the Frick.  Next time...  



On May 25, 2011, at 12:05 PM, John Carl wrote:

> Marsha, you misconstrue the object of my point...
> 
>> Oh my!  What gave you that idea?  I thought it was a list devoted to
>>> pounding on other people for being stupid about the MoQ.  I mean, truth
>>> comes from experience, right?
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha:
>> Have I been mean-spirited?  -
> 
> 
> John:
> I was thinking more of the pounding you have taken, than the pounding you
> have given.  

Marsha:
Fly flecks!  -  If attacking an opponent is their only defense, then one hasn't 
really 
been pounded.  


> John:
> I don't consider you mean-spirited at all.  Contrary and
> stubborn at times?  Yes!  But that's not the same thing as mean-spirited.  I
> dislike mean spirits, but I oft appreciate the contrarian.

Marsha:
Contrary to who?  Contrary to what?  Certainly not contrary to my own 
experience and understanding.  Certainly not contrary to an authority 
since there is no authority on this list but the text and one's interpretation 
of that text.  


>> Marsha:
>> It seems better to give posters room
>> to move.   I once was one of those that ridiculed Bo, and then I flipped
>> to see in many respects he was correct and I had been rigid and
>> wrong, and rude.  I could change my mind again given different
>> evidence and experience.   And maybe even with an intelligent
>> explanation.
>> 
> 
> John:
> Yes, I agree.  However I do feel I've offered good argumentative evidence
> against the 4th level being SOM, and I don't feel like my intelligent
> explanation has been countered at all.  

Marsha:
You can present your argument again, but in the past it didn't resonate 
as correct to my experience.  I seem to remember you trying to link the  
I-level to art.  RMP has stated that art is a mixture of all four levels with 
Dynamic Quality.  That works for me.  Maybe you understand it related 
to the intellectual level because your art is words.  My definition of the 
Intellectual Level as being made up of som patterns seems best from 
my point-of-view, while art is all levels with the spontaneous dynamic 
guiding the way. 



> John:
> But you already know all this.

Marsha:
I can assure you I don't know anything.   



>> Marsha:
>> This list, for me, remains a place to explore and expand my understanding
>> of the MoQ.
>> 
>> 
> Me too!  And perhaps even a bit more.  A place to share my experiences with
> the way the MoQ impacts and forms my life and choices.
> 
> Keep exploring and expanding Marsha.  Personally, I'm exercising more these
> days and losing weight.  :-)
> 
> John



Bravo!    



Marsha



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