Hello Marsha,

Let's just cut to the chase here.  I think the key point I'm disputing with
you is the same as I just posted to Andre - the distinction between knowing
and defining.  Please feel free to address my arguments that I posted to
him, and explain how RMP could write, "You can't define Quality but you KNOW
what it is" if definability and knowability are inextricable.

Thanks Marsha,

John

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