On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:09 PM, david buchanan wrote: > > dmb says: > Okay, now we're talking about the same thing. > But I don't think free will is bunk so much as the metaphysical entity behind > it. Same with the notion that reality itself is a series of causes and > effects. That's very metaphysical too. These are the two basic metaphysical > substances in subject-object metaphysics, of course. But, as you almost point > out, the MOQ does not dispute the idea that freedom and constraint are real. > The MOQ says DQ is the quality of freedom and sq is the quality of order. > Without DQ nothing could grow or change and without sq nothing can last. > Without static quality, DQ degenerates into chaos. With DQ, static quality > would fossilize or die of old age. And it takes a living being to negotiate > that balance. In that sense, freedom takes a lot of discipline. Static > patterns don't determine what we will do but they limit what we can do. >
Marsha: Huh? This is almost a good as you explaining how patterns and objects differ. What nonsense... ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
