No, another case of both this and that.

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 12:55 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
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>  Another case of not this, not that?
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> On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:34 AM, 118 wrote:
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>> Hi Marsha,
>> Which translation of the Isopanishad are you reading?
>> Mark
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>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 12:51 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Hinduism
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>>> Advaita Vedanta
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>>> Advaita is one of the six most-known Hindu philosophical systems, and 
>>> literally means "non-duality". Its first great consolidator was Adi 
>>> Shankaracharya, who continued the work of some of the Upanishadic teachers, 
>>> and that of his teacher's teacher Gaudapada. By analyzing the three states 
>>> of experience—waking, dreaming, and deep sleep—he established the singular 
>>> reality of Brahman, in which Brahman, the universe and Atman, the self are 
>>> one and the same.
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>>> In the Hindu model, Brahman, the god identified with the ultimate 
>>> all-inclusive reality, plays a game of hide and seek with itself. In this 
>>> game, called Lila, Brahman plays with individual people, birds, rocks, and 
>>> other features of the world both separately and together, while forgetting 
>>> that the game is being played. At the end of each session, Brahman is said 
>>> to wake up, cease the game, applaud itself, and resume the game all over 
>>> again. The state of wakefulness and enlightenment is knowing one is simply 
>>> playing a game; one is simply acting as a human being, having an illusion 
>>> of being locked within a physical body and separated from the whole of the 
>>> cosmos.
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>>> One who sees everything as nothing but the Self, and the Self in everything 
>>> one sees, such a seer withdraws from nothing.
>>> For the enlightened, all that exists is nothing but the Self, so how could 
>>> any suffering or delusion continue for those who know this oneness?
>>>
>>> — Ishopanishad: sloka 6, 7
>>>
>>> The philosophy of Vedanta, "Aham Brahmasmi" (roughly translated as "I am 
>>> the Absolute Truth"), could be interpreted as solipsism in one of its 
>>> primitive senses, as the world is but an illusion in the mind of the 
>>> observer. However, Advaita Vedanta can be understood to be non-solipsistic 
>>> when it is recognised that it does not actually deny the existence of a 
>>> world 'external' to the Self or Atman. Rather, it is asserting that the 
>>> consciousness and awareness of the individual pervades all of that person's 
>>> experience, to such an extent that absolute notions of 'inside' and 
>>> 'outside' are arbitrary. The universe is the same as the self, as the 
>>> universe can only be experienced through the self and the self is submerged 
>>> within the universe as an integrated part.
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>>> However, Advaita is strongly divergent from solipsism in that the former is 
>>> a system of exploration of one's mind in order to finally understand the 
>>> nature of the self and attain complete knowledge. The unity of existence is 
>>> said to be directly experienced and understood at the end as a part of 
>>> complete knowledge. On the other hand solipsism posits the non-existence of 
>>> the external void right at the beginning, and says that no further inquiry 
>>> is possible.
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>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
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