I didn't say "all" Marsha, I listed the ones I respected, And no (being consistent and coherent) I don't exempt these from the narrative side of epistemology (even in science) - they all get it too, and they are writers of anecdote-filled books, some of them much repeated and apocryphal, if not mystical. Need more evidence ? Both Haidt and McGilchrist (and others) rely on references to Al McIntyre too, and Homer and Virgil, and ... a trail that led me to Boyd (On the Origin of Stories) and Dutton (The Art Instinct).
BTW, great fun to follow the links on these subjects, prompted by you today. Search "free won't" (in the quotation marks) on the blog and it leads you to two posts. Follow all the linked > linked posts from there and back again. There is a wonderful comment thread involving Alice and Matt on Wegner and the "illusion" of conscious free-will. Says a lot about "respect" and MD. Finally, yeah, when I says "self" I do try to keep the perspective on the reality of little and big self interpretations. Good to avoid too objectifying self - you know I agree. This is why I'm such a fan of Dennett. Yes we need to talk about self to make any sense to each other, but that is perfectly consistent with believing self is largely illusory - humans can be pretty sophisticated in holding many complex thoughts in play - if they give each other respect I find. Gotta go. Work to do. Ian On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:24 PM, MarshaV <val...@att.net> wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > I am in the no-self (anatta) camp, but like everything else there > are subtleties to consider: 'sense of self' which I know exists > and actual self which is missing. "I feel my emotions therefore > I am." doesn't do much for me. How you use your brain / body > is only a consideration if you have awareness in the present. > Otherwise, it seems to me the patterns have you. > > Not much left for consideration in the brain/mind workings if you > take all the neuroscientists to hold the truth. Didn't we recently > discuss that science is story-telling? Do you exempt your favorites: > Zeman / Austin / Sacks /Ramchandran, now McGilchrist from that > category? > > Anyway, it certainly is interesting. > > I am almost through with the Albahari book, but I am going to > reread it immediately. > > > Marsha > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
