Steve said:
...moral responsibility and free will are not linked as a logical necessity.


Pirsig said:
"This battle has been a very long and very loud one because an abandonment of 
either position has DEVASTATING LOGICAL CONSEQUENCES."  "In the MOQ this 
dilemma doesn't come up."

dmb says:
Why does it not come up? Because in the MOQ, one does not have to abandon 
either position. We are controlled to some extent and we are free to some 
extent. We don't have to pretend that morality is "merely an artificial social 
code that has nothing to do with the real nature of the world" in order to save 
the laws of science and we don't have to "deny the truth of science" in order 
to assert free will. The MOQ does not escape these devastating logical 
consequences by abandoning free will and then simply defying logical 
consequences of it. It avoid this dilemma by showing that you do not have to 
choose one position to the exclusion of the other. The MOQ's reformulation is a 
new kind of compatibilism. The freedom of DQ and the constraining order of sq 
are both necessary.

Wiki says:
Compatibilism is the belief that free will and determinism are compatible 
ideas, and that it is possible to believe both without being logically 
inconsistent.[1] It may, however, be more accurate to say that compatibilists 
define 'free will' in a way that allows it to co-exist with determinism. ...In 
contrast, the incompatibilist positions are concerned with a sort of 
"metaphysically free will," which Compatibilists claim has never been 
coherently defined. 





                                          
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