> Dan:
> The MOQ does support the notion of free will. But it renders the
> question meaningless, like thinking that one could have acted
> differently. From what I understand, this is what dmb has been saying
> all along... please correct me if I'm wrong though.
> Dan:
>
> I would say that the MOQ both rejects and defends the notions of free
> will and determinism. They are both right in their own limited ways
> but in the larger, more expanded picture painted by the MOQ, free will
> and determinism are seen as meaningless.
Steve:
I'll let dmb correct you if you are wrong, but somehow I doubt he
will. When Arlo, Horse, and you say the same things I have been
saying, he doesn't seem to have a problem, but coming from me it is a
very different story. All I know is that if I had said the exact same
thing that you just did ("in the larger, more expanded picture painted
by the MOQ, free will and determinism are seen as meaningless"), dmb
would have had a fit.
Ron:
I believe the original quibble was over the idea that since the either/or
question
was rendered meaningless this in turn rendered the use of the terms meaningless
and the topic in general as it related to DQ/SQ in the MoQ as moral
responsibility.
As I remember you had taken the tact that the entire discussion was meaningless
while Dave maintained that just because the either/or question was rendered moot
doesent mean that a discussion involving those terms is meaningless in a
discussion
concerning MoQ.
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