Horse said to Arlo:
... I would say that "real" cannot be anything other than DQ + SQ - this is the
MoQ definition of Reality after all. SQ without DQ can never be anything but
illusion - the map is a representation, nothing more. ... I'm not saying that
everything except DQ is illusion. .. it is a combination of DQ and SQ that
constitutes what is real. Both the experience and the expression of that
experience are necessary - one without the other precludes reality.
A piece of the Wiki article on Northrop might be helpful here.
..."The problem is not what is really real. Unlike (certain interpretations of)
Plato and Plotinus, there is in Northrop no propensity to degrade or downgrade
the world-as-it-is-sensed in favor of the world-as-known by
concepts-by-postulation. To experience the visual image of blue is as
epistemically valuable and irreducible as knowing blue postulationally. The two
sources of all our knowledge give information that is both complementary and
supplementary. Without concepts-by-intuition we could never know the world in
its particularity. Without concepts-by-postulation we could never know the
world in its universality and necessity.We now have enough information to give
a name to Northrop's epistemology. He calls it "logical realism in epistemic
correlation with radical empiricism." In other words, reason (in the form of
concepts-by-postulation) epistemically correlated with the senses (in the form
of concepts-by-intuition).The consequences of this theory cannot be overestimat
ed. It has ramifications for psychology, epistemology, religion, culture and
philosophy. Not only will the world now come to be seen as something that can
be known both by theory as well as by sense perception, but the knower can also
be known by both methods. Humans are not only what the latest science has
postulated them to be, but also what they sense themselves to be."
Yea, humans are not just what science says they are (sq) but also what they
sense themselves to be (DQ). Seeing blue and understanding what "blue" means
are both necessary and it would be very misleading to say that one or the other
is an illusion. The concept "blue" functions in relation to blue as it's felt
and known in experience and it does so unproblematically for everyone almost
all the time, except for philosophers of course. :-)
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