dave, My bullshit detector just went BEEP.
> dmb says: > > That's just because Pirsig is a philosopher and not a writer of Hallmark > cards. Obvious platitudes don't need a metaphysical framework. John replies a month later... I disagree dave. I think if anything needs a solid metaphysical framework, it's our "obvious platitudes." I mean, when *they* are on a shaky foundation, we're in real trouble! I'd ask of any good Jamesian, What good is concrete when its assembled incorrectly? -put into a faulty construction, or too much water added or not cured correctly? None is the answer. Concrete in itself, isn't everything. But we were talking about platitudes, not concretitude, right? Well in my view, they should be the same. Concrete is something that is just sort of assumed, like steel. But what is steel? It's a construction. Everything is, in the end. Steel, concrete and platitudes. We oughta be sure of their construction. dmb: > I mean, Pirsig doesn't offer any personal hygiene tips either. John: Wrong again, dave. I'd say the MoQ is rife with personal hygiene tips and insights. For instance.... "I untie the packs and spread the sleeping bags out on the ground. Chris goes off. I stretch out, and the tiredness fills my arms and legs. Silent, beautiful forest -- . In time Chris returns, and says he has diarrhea. "Oh," I say, and get up. "Do you have to change underwear?" "Yes." He looks sheepish. "Well, they're in the pack by the front of the cycle. Change and get a bar of soap from the saddlebag and we'll go down to the stream and wash the old underwear out." He's embarrassed by the whole thing and now is glad to take orders. dmb: > By your reasoning, the MOQ has no place for brushing your teeth. Maybe I'm > missing your point. But this sort of criticism seems, um, ...unserious. > > John: well, I realize that. But if you'd just go down to stream, wash out your drawers and admit your embarrassment, I'm sure your orders will come. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
