Hi dmb, all,
> dmb says: > > Steve recently asked me why the conversation always seems to "devolve" into a > debate about the conversation itself. Well, this response of yours is a > fairly typical example of the reasons why. There has been a shift or > transformation from one context to another so that the meaning of my comments > has been wildly distorted. I was talking to Steve about Pirsig's "failure" to > talk about love in his attempt to be taken seriously by academic philosophers > and you've responded as if I said people in the heartland shouldn't talk > about love. And of course, it would be completely ridiculous to suggest that > one ought not talk about love at a wedding ceremony. Steve: Consider also the transformation of my claim that Pirsig does not talk about moral progress in terms of empathy, as self-enlargement as has been done by "the great spiritual leaders" of the past as well as by prominent philosophers such as Rorty, and you painted me as criticizing Pirsig for not being more like a Hallmark card in having a philosophy of love. As Marsha recently quote, McWatt states the point I made much more strongly than I did: "Pirsig's failure to explicitly mention Buddhist compassion (karuna) in ZMM or LILA is possibly his most serious oversight. I don't agree that it was an oversight so much as a limitation of only having written two books. I only suggested that more work needed to be done as Pirsig suggested in the NYT article, and you got all over my ass for saying so. It is strange to me that if McWatt and even Pirsig himself say that more work needs to be done on empathy, compassion, and love in the MOQ, that I would be regarded as such an evil non-thinker for suggesting the same thing, but it seems at this point I could say the sky is blue and you would want to take issue with me for it. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
