Hi Mark and all,

I have been trying to explore the basis in logic for "essence"!

"Essence" is only perceived in a logical construct.  There is no way to
discern its independent existence.

Evolution is a description of levels in existence.  Existence is realized in
the discernable logical baggage, evolution!  Evolution is merely conceptual
baggage in essence!  Creation is real!  Of course, creation demands a
creator!  The discipline MOQ verses the discipline SOM!

Part of SOM baggage is "intention".  It uses "intentional existence" in its
description of the process of knowing.

Knowledge is intentional not real existence.  I control my knowledge, free
will. MOQ limits that SOM baggage by describing evolution as levels in
existence.  SOM waters down metaphysics with True/False reality instead of
the recognition of an Intentional/Real reality.  I want what I want!  A
useless metaphysics for reality and wars are fought over the acceptance of
the vision of reality.

Imho Pirsig correctly denies "intentional existence" to a mind and places DQ
as an indefinable awareness of reality, the color purple.  This metaphysics
then embraces logic in the definition of reality DQ/SQ evolution.  War is
destructive!  You may need to replace a monster!

Joe

On 9/17/11 9:03 AM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sep 15, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
> Ham and all,
> 

> Metaphysics cannot be contained in mathematical
> descriptions, physics.  It
> is a different discipline.
> 
> SOM logic is tied
> to a theory of knowledge which uses an intentional/real
> division in
> existence for a differentiation between knowledge and reality.
> It is hard to
> plant a tree in my brain!  Joe and Maurer exist differently!



Intention is 
> real, one cannot say it is phony.



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