On Sep 20, 2011, at 4:24 PM, david buchanan wrote:

> 
> dmb said to Marsha:
> I think your grandson has a very good reason to dislike girls like Lucy. And 
> maybe we have good reasons for bestowing that name [Lucy] upon you. Ever 
> consider the possibility that people don't like Lucy because she's 
> pointlessly hurtful? She tortures Charlie just to amuse herself ....
> 
> 
> Marsha replied to dmb:
> You think it, therefore it's true.
> 
> 
> 
> dmb says:
> 
> Perfect. You're accused of being a "Lucy" and your response is to do that 
> Lucy thing yet again. Why am I not surprised? 


Marsha:
What James argues still means nothing to me.  I still neither accept free-will 
& determinism, nor reject free-will & determinism.  They are conventions, 
static patterns and analogy.  There's no autonomous entity with a will, only 
conventions, static patterns and analogy.  I put them in the same category as 
God.  The interesting question is how do you lessen the attachment to static 
quality to become more free.   


 
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