Mark said to Ham:
When some do not have any idea how to refute an argument, they will attack you
personally. Has happened to me until they learned not to debate me. Happens to
Marsha, John, and others who are serious about progressing MoQ.
dmb says:
That's hilarious. Reminds me of the UFOlogists who condemn the scientific
community for being skeptical about their scientifically impossible claims. In
both cases, we have ridiculous, delusional, self-aggrandizing claims that don't
address any of the actual criticism. Like the conspiracy theorist, the lack of
evidence is only taken as proof of the conspiracy's effectiveness. Or the
bible-thumper who takes your disagreement as proof that the devil's got a hold
of you. There is no point in talking to such people, but it certainly isn't
because their arguments are irrefutable. Quite the opposite. It's because they
are apparently oblivious to the fact that their arguments are completely
worthless.
Marsha is pushing vacuous nihilism where there should be nothing but values and
morals. John is pushing old-school theism where there should be non-theistic
philosophical mysticism. Ham is pushing the metaphysical framework (SOM) where
there should be a philosophy that begins by rejecting that framework. I guess I
can only speak for myself because other folks might have their own reasons for
ignoring them. As I see it, some people hang around here even though they are
basically incapable of having a real debate. I have tried, believe me, but some
people cannot be reasoned with. Some people prove this over and over again. And
that's how I learned not to debate them, by trying to. Again, it's not because
they were irrefutable but because they are unreasonable and/or hopelessly lost.
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