Hi Joe,

I don't usually respond to you only because I usually have no idea
what you are getting at. I've come to see what you do here as a sort
of poetry. Unfortunately for me, I have a tin ear for most people's
poetry!

I just don't want you to think I am ignoring you as unworthy of a
response. I just don't know what to say in response. If you are trying
to communicate something to me explicitly, then I guess we have to
share the blame for miscommunication, but if you also see it as a form
of poetry (as all writing can be regarded in Pirsigian philosophy),
the blame is on me for not getting it, and it's just my loss. Asking
for clarification would be like having to have a joke explained. At
that point, even if I got it I would still have missed it.

Anyway, that's how I see it. I just wanted to say that I mean no
disrespect in my lack of response to your posts directed towards me.

Best,
Steve




On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Steve and All,
>
> In the MOQ as opposed to SOM, there is a perception of indefinable DQ.  Any
> theory of knowledge has to address how we progress from what we don't know
> to what we do know, The Color Purple.
>
> I do not understand yet accept a concept of metaphysics in an
> indefinable/definable format. Levels in Evolution is a container for the
> baggage. Yes there is a flavor.  Imho a truth in logic enhances a value in
> perception by recognizing the place where evolution has value!
>
> Evolution!  How do I know the color purple?  Some are color-blind.  There
> must be a process for knowledge.  What process contains indefinable
> DQ.  A logical suggestion is a theory of evolution, levels in existence!
> How do we get on the same page?  Look inside for the same experience!
> Forget logic!  You are who you are!  Why try to define yourself?  Give
> someone else that task!  Marriage!  Social order.  There is no logic in
> free-will, but there is a perception that handcuffs are real.
>
> Isn't it odd, Logic determines personality.  I am a flavor!  The truth in
> flavors, personality.   Once I manifest my flavor, I am judged on how I
> taste.
>
> Joe
>
> On 9/21/11 5:39 AM, "Steven Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If we are going to compare free will and determinism on equal footing,
>> then we ought to be willing to drop the metaphysical baggage from BOTH
>> terms. If not--If we are going to consider determinism in its most
>> absurd
>> metaphysical form then we should do the same with free will. Likewise,
>> if we are going to try to rescue the notion of free will by freeing it
>> of its metaphysical baggage, we ought to do the same for determinism.
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