Hi Steve and all:

DQ/SQ:  Imho Pirsig describes a way to eliminate the baggage.  When he
considered knowledge, and how to acquire knowledge he saw a quagmire,
communication!  For starters DQ is not conceptualized, only experienced.
How can I perceive an indefinable?  Define Blue in terms of the speed of
light.

If I try to answer that question, I am lost in logic.  If I accept that I
can perceive an indefinable how can I communicate to another that
perception?  Perception is common experience!  MOQ can logically question
what you experience.  The MOQ abandons logic in DQ perception, and
reinstates logic in SQ communication, law.  At the end of the day DQ is
still viable and life goes on though I can't define what I know, only that I
know.  I am a logical discipline if I wish!  MOQ!

Joe  


On 9/20/11 4:53 AM, "Steven Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is a perfect example of the metaphysical baggage I was talking
> about in the OP of this "baggage" thread. You think free will can
> survive jettisoning its metaphysical baggage, but at the same time you
> insist that determinism is married to its metaphysical baggage. You
> insist that we can't talk about choice with respect to determinism
> without bringing in an appearance-reality distinction and "illusion."


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