Steve said to dmb:
You think free will can survive jettisoning its metaphysical baggage, but at
the same time you insist that determinism is married to its metaphysical
baggage.
dmb says:
Not at all. The MOQ says freedom and restraint are both real in the empirical
sense, not metaphysically. It is the determinists who insist that reality
differs from appearance, by denying the freedom we experience as an illusion.
We see this in James's description of determinism too, but describing an idea
is not the same as subscribing to it.
Your inability to see this simple difference - not to mention your track record
overall - is a good reason to believe it would be pointless to discuss anything
more complicated. What could possibly be gained from talking to a guy that is
always comparing apples to oranges, conflating, confusing or reversing every
operative concept - and keeps on going despite the clear and explicit textual
evidence against him? Where is the fun? It's like shooting fish in a barrel,
except the fish don't know that they're already dead.
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