Hey Steve, Steve said: Ironically, the direct (preconceptual)/indirect (conceptual) distinction that dmb is trying to use to push against us itself makes the so-called "out of touch with DQ" problem impossible or at least merely "secondary." If this problem is (as dmb must be saying) a problem with our concepts, it (and even the whole problem of SOM versus the MOQ) is merely a "secondary" problem.
Matt: Now, this is an interesting insight. It seems to scan, too: even SOM-philosophers are able to have direct experience despite their inability to conceptualize it (properly, we might say). This makes philosophy a kind of therapy (much like Wittgenstein envisioned), where one tries and get people to stop fussing with bad philosophical hang-ups. Ultimately, one might say (meaning "primarily"), it doesn't matter what philosophy one holds in terms of one's ability to tune into the direct experience of one's life. But if it _does_ get in the way, well--so says the therapeutic Pirsig--here's a way of not so getting hung up. Matt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
