Matt said:

...I don't get how I've rendered DQ as trivial, inert, or meaningless in my 
version of the glasses analogy, or train analogy.  
 
...I don't see what is "jarring" or "incongruous," as you say, between the work 
Pirsig sees DQ as handling and my version of what that work is. 

...I can't help but perceive that as a superficial rhetorical difference in the 
words, and not the conceptual position I was describing.   

...I'm not sure I've obviously screwed up this relationship,..  

...I'm unclear where the pushing occurs.  

...I do not see how the slogans in the last two sentences are unavailable to 
either of my analogies:  

...I don't understand how my analogies can disbar those conceptual 
understandings.  

...I'm not sure I can't take it into account, only that I haven't yet done so 
though also expressed a  dislike for it.  I'm not trying to be cagey, only 
precise.  

...I haven't a sense of _how_ you've leveled the hot stove analogy  _as_ an 
objection.  

...you can't take advantage either of things I've sensed as potential problems, 
but not given any definition to.  It would be a boon to me if you did help give 
that definition, but I haven't yet a sense of what that shape is.


dmb says:
I see a pattern in your reply, Matt. My editing job shows you what I see. Sure, 
it's a bit rude to complain in this way but I think it has the advantage of 
being exceptionally clear. If we're trying to be precise, I think 
"disingenuous" is probably the best word for your response. That word 
summarizes my complaint. I'll just leave it at that.






                                          
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