[Matt]
That sentiment is essentially Harold Bloom's definition of the artistic process: artists respond to the art work with another piece of art work.

[Arlo]
I am not a fan of the label "artist", I don't know it's just so restrictive. I know you don't mean it that way, and I am not familiar with Bloom, but it implies an almost "profession" like bounding. What's he? Or he's a plumber. And what's she? Oh she's a programmer. What about him? Oh, he's an artist.

"Art" is what a plumber, programmer or painter or dancer or engineer or whatever DOES in response to experience. But I am responding not to you, but to the popular usage of "artist".

[Matt]
we shouldn't ever assume that someone is implying an ultimate reference point for their "meaning."

[Arlo]
I wasn't making any comment about anyone in particular, but I think this Platonic "ultimate reference" is really behind a lot of the non-philosophic talk about 'meaning'. When YOU ask that, okay I know you are coming from a different vantage, but the larger problem of SOM is that this "ultimate reference" is something a large amount of people not only do look for, but find it impossible to de-conceptualize. And 'meaning' is a good meta-topic to engage that.

Heck, even IN philosophical discourse, looking specifically at 'metaphor' one still hears the reducible/replaceable advocates arguing strongly. And since I've been reading on this heavily lately, its been on my mind. Sorry if you felt I was unfairly pointing to a particular person, I was speaking very generally.


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