I'm not terribly sure what the phrase "a more complex foundation for 
a reality in evolution" means, but about the complexity of plastic dog 
dishes relative to New York City, let me put my thought this way: 
New York was around, historically speaking, before plastic dog dishes.  
Meaning, plastic dog dishes are artifacts of a social complexity that 
exceeds (because includes) the social complexity needed for a city.

> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:11:31 -0800
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MD] The Hero's journey
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> The evidence for multiple levels in evolution found in New York city
> describe a more complex foundation for a reality in evolution beyond dog
> dishes.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On 11/19/11 4:05 PM, "Matt Kundert" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I'm not sure why increased complexity denotes more reality/evidence.
> > (Besides, a whole lot of evolution goes into a dog dish: see much
> > plastic lying around the floors of forests?)
> > 
> >> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:54:54 -0800
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [MD] The Hero's journey
> >> 
> >> Hi Matt,
> >> 
> >> I do not know what is your take on evolution?  Is evolution a metaphysical
> >> reality?  If so then there is more evidence for evolution from New York 
> >> than
> >> from dog dishes.  That is if a logical description of evolution is more
> >> complicated than the appearance of dog dishes!
> >> 
> >> Joe
> >> 
> >> On 11/16/11 1:46 PM, "Matt Kundert" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Matt:
> >>> I hope I've articulated why I still have no idea why you think there's
> >>> more evidence for New York than dog dishes.
                                          
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