Hey Matt and Dan,
Matt said:
You go on to say that you think "Dynamic Quality comes before the
coin" of better/worse in the MoQ. I still don't think that is a correct
apprehension of how Pirsig describes the MoQ. But as this is an
issue of scholarship, the task of amassing evidence and
counter-evidence is yet the task not done.
Dan said:
It seems apparent (to me) that RMP equates Dynamic Quality with
pre-intellectual experience. I take the prefix "pre" to mean before.
That's why I said Dynamic Quality comes before the coin.
Intellectually, we decide what's better or worse, after the Dynamic
moment has passed.
Matt:
Yes, DQ is pre-intellectual experience. And I took it that Pirsig was
saying that evaluative responses were our root experiences, and
therefore pre-intellectual in nature, which means low/high
evaluations are pre-intellectual though the _words_ "low" and "high"
come later.
Ron:
Thats how I understand how the function of biological quality functions
in terms of the hot stove analogy, that biological betterness or the move
to get off the hot stove, is pre-intellectual but that evaluation of "following
DQ " is not a move toward biological quality. In short "better-ness" is
an intellectual concept wich emerges out of inorganic/organic "better-ness"
a higher evolutionary form of prefference.Quality or better-ness exists in
four basic forms, to say that DQ is not betterness based on the idea that
DQ is pre-intellectual seems to me to be undercutting the meaning of the
other two distinctions of Quality being inorganic and organic .
DQ being sans prefference, defeats the meaning of how the whole
concept of Quality works as experience.
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