Hi Marsha, Well I guess this begs the question "where is the real?".
Words are symbols, but perhaps what words convey outside the symbology is real. If one lives in an unreal world, one is always searching. Such searching is also considered unreal, and meaningfulness is lost. What has meaning to you? Is there something behind the facade? Mark On Nov 25, 2011, at 1:11 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > The MoQ as representing reality from an empirical point-of-view is > Experience(unpatterned/patterned). The MoQ as representing reality > theoretically is epistemologically relative and ontologically indeterminate. > This is what is contained in my nutshell. Words are not separate from static > quality and only represent provincial truth. There is no real thing. > > Marsha > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 25, 2011, at 3:48 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Marsha, >> All I was saying was that truth and individuals cannot be compared >> relatively, imo. Truth relative to the individual means, to me, what the >> individual takes to be true. I don't think this is Relativism, but I am >> happy to be corrected on this. >> >> Since your ontology cannot be divided, it cannot be subjected to Relativism. >> In that we agree. >> >> Any epistemology must use relative terms since it is a series of equations >> in the form of words; the words must relate. However, that is a description >> and not the real thing. I know you know this, this was for the benefit of >> others. >> >> Mark >> >> On Nov 24, 2011, at 11:34 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> corrected to make clearer... >>> >>> >>> On Nov 24, 2011, at 11:49 PM, 118 wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Marsha, >>>> If you mean that truth is derived from the individual, then I agree >>>> wholeheartedly. If you mean that there is some outside truth that is >>>> interpreted differently by each individual, then I would say this goes >>>> against MoQ. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Mark, >>> >>> I mean 'individual' as in a flow of ever-changing, conditionally >>> co-dependent and impermanent, static patterns of inorganic, biological, >>> social and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality. I >>> have the MoQ epistemologically relativistic as in static quality exists in >>> stable patterns relative to other patterns without independent existence. >>> And I have the MoQ ontologically indeterminate with Dynamic Quality as in >>> indivisible, undefinable and unknowable. >>> >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
