LOL indeed!  Have you read Pirsig's letter to the LS group?

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Tuukka Virtaperko <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> 21.3.2012 23:46, david buchanan kirjoitti:
>> Tukka said to Joe, Marsha, DMB:
>> ....Marsha may be incoherent or weird, but she had contributed even more 
>> than Joe. Nobody has to believe her or take her as some sort of an 
>> ideologist, but it appears than in the past, she has inspired people and 
>> somehow fueled discussion. She is respected at LS, where people follow what 
>> is being spoken here.
>> 
>> 
>> dmb says:
>> Apparently you are unaware, Tukka, that the "LS" group is composed of a 
>> bunch of rejects. To be respected there is a shameful thing.
> 
> Tuukka:
> 
> Lol lol lol... throwing away respect, are we? You think you're so grand you 
> can simply _afford_ to have other people not respect you? Well well well... 
> you have a lot to learn from life, kiddo
> 
> 
> Tuukka also said:
> Why don't you focus on my work? Are you just being a bully or are you trying 
> to "purify" the MOQ from potential adulterants? In the latter case, my work 
> is of much more concern to you.
> 
> dmb says:
> Agreement with Pirsig is not required, like I already said, but it simply 
> isn't possible to agree, disagree, improve, alter, illuminate ANYTHING until 
> you understand it first. I sincerely wish there was competent disagreement 
> around here. That sort of thing can be very educational. My complaint are not 
> about the lack of conformity. It's about the lack of quality in thought and 
> speech. It's about getting rid of incoherent drivel, not alternative views.
> 
> 
> Tuukka:
> Hey, I agree with you on this one. The debate isn't that sophisticated, only 
> the mental atmosphere is nice because of the absence of the usual compulsory 
> Western illusions and fallacies. But I think it's better to recruit new 
> members, somehow, than to complain to the current ones.
> 
> I sure would like to improve the level of this forum. I haven't been active 
> here for such a long time. You know, maybe if Mark or Matt were still 
> interested of the things they once were, and met me now, maybe we could 
> cooperate a lot. Maybe a new Mark or Matt will come.
> 
> But the MOQ should attract attention in order to get new members. The 
> question is, given that Pirsig is largely inert currently, how do we do this? 
> On whose authority?
> 
> Despite criticizing the level of discussion here, I'd like to thank Mark for 
> some excellent and recent discussions.
> 
> -Tuukka
> 
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