J-A,

You might be right, but then it could be they both have something to offer.  
I've never met a sitar play and who knows what magic sitar players might 
possess, or what type of smoke might be passing through the waterpipes.

So great!   I love the guitar…  I am now a Joe Bonamassa  fan.  Why can't I 
purchase this cut on iTunes.  Desire.  Damn!   


Marsha 








On Mar 23, 2012, at 6:23 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote:

> Hi Marsha
> 
> I think our Western type of experience has something to tell the guys on the 
> streets of the East with their waterpipes and handmade sitars:
> 
> http://youtu.be/RVGrsH57Pl0
> 
> best wishes
> 
> Jan Anders
> 
> 
> 21 mar 2012 kl. 22.44 skrev [email protected]:
> 
>> This is supported by Herbert Guenther 204 (1957, p.144) who adds: 
>> 
>> Experience is the central theme of Buddhism, not theoretical postulation and 
>> deductive verification. Since no experience occurs more than once and all 
>> repeated experiences actually are only analogous occurrences, it follows 
>> that a thing or material substance can only be said to be a series of events 
>> interpreted as a thing, having no more substantiality than any other series 
>> of events we may arbitrarily single out. 
>> 
>> After some thought, I think Guenther?s comment is valid as I can?t think of 
>> any events that are repeated exactly. Moreover, like the concept of ?self?, 
>> there?s no absolute objective rule to judge when one event starts and 
>> another stops. This means that any concept or term is fundamentally 
>> indeterminate, imprecise and, as time passes, increasingly less useful.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 4:53 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 5.8.4. THE MOQ, DUKKHA AND AVIDYA (IGNORANCE) It?s fairly obvious from 
>>> reading Pirsig?s texts that SOM is perceived by him as an example of 
>>> ignorant thinking. Briefly, this is due to such systems ignoring the 
>>> reality of Dynamic Quality. Why this is particularly ignorant is explained 
>>> by the ?Three Aspects? of the Cittamatra school of Mahayana Buddhism. 201 
>>> 
>>> Williams (1988, p.83) states that the First Aspect refers to the falsifying 
>>> activity of language which implies independent and permanent existence to 
>>> things. As Hagen 202 (1997, p.30) notes, one of the most fundamental truths 
>>> noted by the Buddha is that all aspects of our experience are in constant 
>>> flux and change. According to the Buddha, when a person ignores this truth 
>>> they subject themselves to dukkha. 
>>> 
>>> _Dukkha_ has been notorious in evading exact translation to English. Hagen 
>>> (1997, p.25) notes that the word is originally derived from a Sanskrit word 
>>> referring to a wheel out-of-kilter. 203
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 4:49 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Like Pirsig, Nishida follows the thought of Nagarjuna and rejects the SOM 
>>>> ?object logic? conceptualisation of reality. Instead, Nishida uses the 
>>>> more Eastern orientated ?concrete logic? (or ?logic of nothingness?) which 
>>>> perceives reality as holistic and constantly changing; where identities 
>>>> are momentary (and, therefore, always ?negating? themselves). A theme 
>>>> prevalent in Nishida?s ?concrete logic? (as well as the MOQ and much of 
>>>> Buddhist thought), is the recognition of the ?self? as just a useful 
>>>> abstraction."
>>>> 
>>>>     (MoQ Textbook) 
>>>> 
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