Everyone,
what are we going to do? The MOQ doesn't have a steady hold of the academia. It won't get there, if dismissed as nonsense. Are you fine with that? I'm not.

My work is what you've needed for decades. Maybe you don't believe you need anything. Maybe you're fine just keeping the conversation going on MD. MD would then be the pinnacle of all MOQ discourse - not only for now, but also indefinitely.

Maybe you don't want the academia to get its dirty hands on the MOQ, so they wouldn't ruin it. Like they ruined the Pythagorean theorem. Except that theorem has not changed one bit for millenia. It hasn't changed, because it's mathematics. It's based on a formal language, which makes it possible to communicate unambiguously.

If you want purity for the MOQ, why would you also want ambiguity? The MOQ is not pure if it's muddled up. You can say it's not muddled up for you. The LS also says it's not muddled up for them. Still you have MD and LS, separately. Some here express outright contempt towards LS. How can they have so much anger towards people, who sincerely did their best?

Is it because six people running a mailing list are such a threat to MD? But MD is supposed to be the pinnacle of all MOQ discussion. Are you fine with it or not? I'm asking, whether you're fine with the fact, that this "pinnacle" is so weak as to be threatened by a mailing list consisting of six people. I don't know whether it is actually threatened, though. But Horse seems to believe it is, as he recently came to LS to set things straight.

My project, SOQ, is not an LS project. It's the project of me and a friend of mine. It obviously cannot compete with the ordinary, non-formal way of discussing the MOQ, because the language is too technical. By virtue of its approach, it's no more and no less the true MOQ than what you're used to. The MOQ may be expressed with English, Finnish, Chinese et cetera, so it may also be expressed with formal language.

But maybe my work isn't needed. If I'm really going wrong here, could you solve these two problems for me, and set me on the right track?

http://www.moq.fi/sets-of-quality/introduction/#Inconsistent-Usage-of-Subjectivity

http://www.moq.fi/sets-of-quality/introduction/#Including-Mathematics-in-the-Intellectual-Level

Best wishes,
Tuukka
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