And I'm saying, any work of art or philosophy that takes years and tears of 
rigorous study to understand, is pretty low quality work.   I don't think the 
works of RMP are hard to understand, unless one is fantastically  stupid.  You 
seem to be saying they are.  

Hmmm. ... 

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On Apr 21, 2012, at 1:29 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> dmb said:
> 
> The purpose of this forum is to talk about a set of philosophical ideas known 
> as the MOQ. What could be more appropriate than a careful analysis of those 
> ideas? It's like complaining about mechanical precision at the auto repair 
> shop. These complaints are fantastically idiotic.
> 
> John replied:
> If the purpose of this forum is to discuss the moq, somewhere in that 
> discussion, the question ought to be raised, well what is the purpose of the 
> MoQ?    It certainly cannot be simply the intellectual analysis of itself, 
> dave. And if the purpose of the MoQ is, as I claim, to help us live a better 
> life, then I think endless intellectual analysis takes us further from that 
> goal rather than toward it. ..,  FANTASTICALLY idiotic dave? 
> 
> 
> 
> dmb says:
> Yes, fantastically. 
> You are defending the indefensible with nonsense. 
> How are you going to answer the question that ought raised without first 
> understanding what Pirsig means? It's just a matter of logical necessity. You 
> can't know what the purpose of the MOQ is unless and until you do the reading 
> and thinking (i.e. intellectual analysis). If you think you can say anything 
> intelligible about the purpose the MOQ, let alone say anything meaningful, 
> without doing honest work, then you're living in a fantasy world wherein we 
> can ignore logical necessities and get what we want just by wishing for it. 
> That's just not how this art form works, Mister.                         
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