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On 6/26/12 1:17 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Tao Te Ching > > Chapter One > > The tao that can be told > is not the eternal Tao > The name that can be named > is not the eternal Name. > > The unnamable is the eternally real. > Naming is the origin > of all particular things. > > Free from desire, you realize the mystery. > Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations. > > Yet mystery and manifestations > arise from the same source. > This source is called darkness. > > Darkness within darkness. > The gateway to all understanding. > > (Written by Lao-tzu > From a translation by S. Mitchell) > > > > On Jun 26, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Marsha and All, >> >> "Fundamental nature" is a mouthful! Is it a definition for reality? I >> conceptualize "logic" as being unable to describe evolution in terms of >> SQ/DQ, defined/indefinable reality. >> >> Indefinable reality is individualized DQ and can only be described in >> analogical terms. The acceptance of indefinable DQ reality reveals >> sentience DQ/SQ. >> >> In the past S/O was proposed as a logical (metaphysical) base. This placed >> sentience in a horrible bind to define all of reality. This made definition >> equal to a mathematical certainty, denying evolution. Creation was more >> acceptable than metaphysics. Metaphysics is logic beyond mathematics. >> Evolution is logical as levels in existence. >> >> Pirsig saw that there are indefinable emotions like love. "Definition" is >> not a metaphysical term but a physical term. Something in our experience >> remains indefinable DQ. I do not like the term "fundamental nature". I >> prefer "evolution" as levels in existence. >> >> Joe >> >> >> On 6/25/12 1:31 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> But under it all, the fundamental nature of sq is DQ. >> >> >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
