Hello everyone On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Ant McWatt <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dan Glover stated June 24th: > > I would say that from a Dynamic Quality perspective nothing exists. No > 'thing,' that is. Experience comes before all that. From a Dynamic > Quality perspective since nothing exists nothing matters as everything > is equal. > > Ant McWatt comments: > > Dan, > > It appears you are conflating literal nothingness with no-thingness in this > last sentence.
Dan: Well, it is certainly possible. However, I did use the qualifier 'I would say' in an attempt to make it clear I'm figuratively pointing to rather than literally referring to nothing. I think the key word here is 'perspective' which always involves intellectualization from a 'conventional' static point of view. So I think (at this level) it is very difficult (at best) to separate the literal from the figurative, or the moon from the finger pointing at the moon. We are naming the un-nameable that comes before intellectualization. If we call it Dynamic Quality or nothing or nothingness or even no-thingness we are always using intellectual terms to point... right? Ant: >From a "Dynamic > Quality perspective", there is no equality or... inequality. Dan: I understand what you are saying and I have no quarrel with it. You said it better than I did which I appreciate. :) > > > Dan continued June 24th: > > It is when intellect becomes involved that we judge the high > from the low, like a person sitting on an endless beach sorting > through the individual grains of sand one by one. > > > Ant McWatt comments: > > In the MOQ, isn't it when (static) inorganic patterns become "involved" that > preferences start to appear? > > This is seen more clearly from the biological perspective where animals are > making qualitative judgments about their environment (think of Pirsig's > example in ZMM of the amoeba that moves away from the acid on its plate). Dan: Yes good point. Still, I am thinking here more along the lines of ideas coming before matter. Working from within that context, wouldn't it perhaps be better to say it is a high quality idea that preferences start to appear with the inorganic level? > > Best wishes, And to you as well, Dan http://www.danglover.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
