Hi Everyone,

On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:46 PM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dan:
> Yes good point. Still, I am thinking here more along the lines of
> ideas coming before matter. Working from within that context, wouldn't
> it perhaps be better to say it is a high quality idea that preferences
> start to appear with the inorganic level

I appreciate what Dan writes, but would it not be more correct to say that 
"ideas come before the idea of matter"?

This would make the statement more consistent with what Pirsig writes (remember 
the example of gravity).

In the same line of logic, the idea of Quality must come before Quality.  Let 
us not forget that Quality is a concept which is being expressed through a 
metaphysics.  There cannot be Quality before it is conceived of.  Remember the 
ghost of reason.  One cannot put the cart before the horse,

We create these things with our minds, they cannot create us.  Dynamic Quality 
is created for metaphysical purposes to juxtapose static quality.  We cannot 
rightly say that dynamic quality creates static quality since it did not exist 
before that.  This is what Pirsig goes through great pains to explain.

Let us not create a religion out of Quality.  This is metaphysics.  It employs 
logic.

Regards,
Mark
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