Me thinks thou doth make light of dark matters, good knight. Ideas of ideas about ideas pertaining to ideas come before ideas, do they not? I challenge thee to deny this. Be thee full of care lest I smite thy grin from the grin that thou grinnist so grinnily.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Ant McWatt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Dan Glover requested politely July 5Th: > > >> Mark, >> >> We are having a discussion here about the MOQ, not whatever it is you >> are talking about. Unless you have something pertinent to add, please >> refrain from disrupting it. >> >> Thank you, >> Dan > > > Ant McWatt comments: > > Now that seems a reasonable request to me. I'm sure with Mark being a PhD > (at Imperial College - of all places!) will take on board that request in > good faith. > > Best wishes, > > Ant > > > >> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:06 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi Everyone, >> > >> > On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:46 PM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Dan: >> >> Yes good point. Still, I am thinking here more along the lines of >> >> ideas coming before matter. Working from within that context, wouldn't >> >> it perhaps be better to say it is a high quality idea that preferences >> >> start to appear with the inorganic level >> > >> > I appreciate what Dan writes, but would it not be more correct to say that >> > "ideas come before the idea of matter"? >> > >> > This would make the statement more consistent with what Pirsig writes >> > (remember the example of gravity). >> > >> > In the same line of logic, the idea of Quality must come before Quality. >> > Let us not forget that Quality is a concept which is being expressed >> > through a metaphysics. There cannot be Quality before it is conceived of. >> > Remember the ghost of reason. One cannot put the cart before the horse, >> > >> > We create these things with our minds, they cannot create us. Dynamic >> > Quality is created for metaphysical purposes to juxtapose static quality. >> > We cannot rightly say that dynamic quality creates static quality since it >> > did not exist before that. This is what Pirsig goes through great pains to >> > explain. >> > >> > Let us not create a religion out of Quality. This is metaphysics. It >> > employs logic. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Mark > > http://www.danglover.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
