Dan Glover requested politely July 5Th:
> Mark,
>
> We are having a discussion here about the MOQ, not whatever it is you
> are talking about. Unless you have something pertinent to add, please
> refrain from disrupting it.
>
> Thank you,
> Dan
Ant McWatt comments:
Now that seems a reasonable request to me. I'm sure with Mark being a PhD (at
Imperial College - of all places!) will take on board that request in good
faith.
Best wishes,
Ant
>
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:06 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:46 PM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dan:
> >> Yes good point. Still, I am thinking here more along the lines of
> >> ideas coming before matter. Working from within that context, wouldn't
> >> it perhaps be better to say it is a high quality idea that preferences
> >> start to appear with the inorganic level
> >
> > I appreciate what Dan writes, but would it not be more correct to say that
> > "ideas come before the idea of matter"?
> >
> > This would make the statement more consistent with what Pirsig writes
> > (remember the example of gravity).
> >
> > In the same line of logic, the idea of Quality must come before Quality.
> > Let us not forget that Quality is a concept which is being expressed
> > through a metaphysics. There cannot be Quality before it is conceived of.
> > Remember the ghost of reason. One cannot put the cart before the horse,
> >
> > We create these things with our minds, they cannot create us. Dynamic
> > Quality is created for metaphysical purposes to juxtapose static quality.
> > We cannot rightly say that dynamic quality creates static quality since it
> > did not exist before that. This is what Pirsig goes through great pains to
> > explain.
> >
> > Let us not create a religion out of Quality. This is metaphysics. It
> > employs logic.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mark
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