Andre, How can RMP's undescribed Quality be compared to anything William James wrote? What could possibly be the basis of comparison between RMP and James?
Marsha On Jul 8, 2012, at 5:09 AM, Andre Broersen <[email protected]> wrote: > Mark said to Anyone: > > As we know we are discussing a description of Quality which Pirsig brought to > our attention almost 40 years ago. > > As a description of Quality using metaphysical tools, there are certain > principles that guide such metaphysics. > > Andre: > I hate to break this to you Mark but neither ZMM nor LILA is a 'description > of Quality'. I'd like to know where you find that Pirsig DESCRIBES Quality. > > Mark: > I am not sure what you think I have upside down, since you do not say. I am > not sure if I am supposed to guess what these are. Perhaps you can present > what you mean. Maybe a paragraph on Pirsig's MoQ from you would be helpful. > > Mark: > You are dodging Mark. I was responding directly to your statement that ideas > come before DQ. This is like saying that Newton wrote his Law of Gravity at > his writing desk...then went out for a snooze in his garden where an apple > fell on his head which, of course woke him from his slumbers after which he > exclaims: 'See, that's gravity!' > > Or, where Archimedes runs naked through the streets exclaiming 'Eureka, > eureka' and then, on recommendation of his fellow citizens takes a much > needed bath and says: 'See!'. > > You have it upside down, arse about, reverse order. First you have DQ then > you get the ideas. This was in reference to David's suggestion for you to > re-evaluate your statement and he quoted Pirsig: > > A direct quote from Lila: > > "Dynamic Quality is the pre-intellectual cutting edge of reality, the source > of all things, completely simple and always new." > > Comprendo? > > Mark: > Well Andre, perhaps you should stop dancing then and put down some philosophy > in this forum. How about it, Chum? Stop all this cheerleading and give us > some thoughts on Quality. > > Andre: > You are incorrigible most times Mark. Marsha made the suggestion of your > 'intellectual jumps and heel-clicks' as she termed it. I agreed with her and > keep on agreeing with her that it is very annoying. > > You keep on wanting 'thoughts on Quality'. You think the MoQ is one > 'description' of Quality. Jeez man, what is there to say about Quality? A > 'nothingness within which there is great working'? ( a la Katigiri Roshi?) > > Your heaven in which, for all eternity 10.000 angels sing the cantates of > Bach in reverence to your holy trinity? > > What's your obsession with knowing about Quality? > > Mark: > It is all in how one uses Quality that matters. > > Andre: > This is a nice example of what I mean. Your 'how one uses Quality'[????] as > if it is some thing to be handled?????????????????? > > Lolol. > > As Bodvar used to say: 'Go back to kindergarten'. > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
