Arlo Bensinger stated July 11th:
[Ham]
You disappoint me with an apologist defense that I would have expected of Ant,
Arlo, or DMB.
[Arlo]
Its hard for me to understand how one can be an "apologist" for Pirsig's ideas
on a discussion board about Pirsig's ideas. If you want to rage against "the
dogma", Ham, why are you here? To save our souls? (Sorry, I am beyond
redemption, happily, gods like your vain and petty Essence only piss me off)...
I mean, I am on a few other philosophy forums, and the last thing I'd do on the
Peirce board is berate people who understand and know Peirce for being
"apologists for Peirce", or at least that would make me wonder why I was
there... "Hey all you people who know and understand Peirce, you're just
apologists for a dogma, come over here and worship my Essence!"... And you
wonder why maybe like five people in the world take your philosophy
seriously... (hey I'll be generous, let's give you a ten-timer and say
fifty!!!)...
Here's a thought, please don't mention me any more. I have your posts on
ignore, but I have an override for posts that mention me by name. You're a
'smart' guy, you can figure out that algorithm, no? Or.. or... oooo... you can
mention me all you want on the "essentialist discuss" listserv.... I mean,
that's really where your prime involvement is, fielding all those scores of
questions from your thousands of subscribers interested in how they can best
praise Essence to fulfill Essence's vanity....
Pfff... I will thank you for lumping me with Ant and DMB though, I doubt I come
close to their caliber, but its nice to imagine I do.
Ant McWatt comments:
Well Ham, like Arlo, I'm quite happy to be lumped with such company. It nearly
made my day! As far as being an apologist... I suppose it could be a lot, lot
worse than Mr Pirsig. How about being an apologist for Bush Junior or Mr Blair
or Donald "Wiggy" Trump or Thatcher or even those lovable investment bankers -
which George Harrison mentioned in his rather charming Piggies song?
(Weirdly enough though it's a song all about piggies, there's no mention of
ham!)
Apologies for the absence,
Ant
"Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in."
"In their sties with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need is a damn good whacking."
"Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon."
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