[Ham]
You disappoint me with an apologist defense that I would have expected of Ant, 
Arlo, or DMB.

[Arlo]
Its hard for me to understand how one can be an "apologist" for Pirsig's ideas 
on a discussion board about Pirsig's ideas. If you want to rage against "the 
dogma", Ham, why are you here? To save our souls? (Sorry, I am beyond 
redemption, happily, gods like your vain and petty Essence only piss me off)... 

I mean, I am on a few other philosophy forums, and the last thing I'd do on the 
Peirce board is berate people who understand and know Peirce for being 
"apologists for Peirce", or at least that would make me wonder why I was 
there... "Hey all you people who know and understand Peirce, you're just 
apologists for a dogma, come over here and worship my Essence!"... And you 
wonder why maybe like five people in the world take your philosophy 
seriously... (hey I'll be generous, let's give you a ten-timer and say 
fifty!!!)... 

Here's a thought, please don't mention me any more. I have your posts on 
ignore, but I have an override for posts that mention me by name. You're a 
'smart' guy, you can figure out that algorithm, no? Or.. or... oooo... you can 
mention me all you want on the "essentialist discuss" listserv.... I mean, 
that's really where your prime involvement is, fielding all those scores of 
questions from your thousands of subscribers interested in how they can best 
praise Essence to fulfill Essence's vanity....

Pfff... I will thank you for lumping me with Ant and DMB though, I doubt I come 
close to their caliber, but its nice to imagine I do.












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