Hi, I will have to butt in once again. Just being friendly and conversational.
In my opinion, Ant is more correct, however it must be stressed that we create these static patterns through our interaction within existence. They come from the interface of us and "other". This interface can be analogized to Quality. This interface is the source of all things, but does not exist, just like a shoreline does not really exist. However, we do speak of a shoreline as a dynamic interface between the sea and the land. The Higgs field is theorized to be the source of all things, except (due to their Western mentality), it must be a thing, thus the Higgs boson. This boson is just a projection of static quality, and we know what that means. I presented a few posts a while back which analogized Quality to this Higgs field. They are in the archives. Maybe under [email protected], I can't remember. Andre, We are not static patterns of value, we create static patterns of value. What we are is indefinable. That is, it cannot be found through static patterns. In that sense, we are "no thing". Obviously I am not speaking of the body, but what experiences it as a single entity of being which we have from birth to death. Everything else changes, atoms are constantly being rearranged. We are the tornado without the wind and the dust. Certainly I can create a static patterns of you, and you of me. We can also give ourselves many descriptions of static value. However, that is not what we are. Never has been. Static Quality is something that we project. It mainly exists in the social and intellectual levels. We objectify reality so that we can discuss it and think about it. It is a tool for survival and intention. It is as real as we want to make it, it is not fake. It is part of our experience just like jumping off a hot stove without thinking. We do not know how we think, we just do it. We cannot get behind thinking and look at it. That is DQ in action. It is a radiance. The sun cannot look at itself. Quality is that from which there is no view out. It does not exist relatively for there is nothing outside of it. A monism is something as opposed to a pluralism, therefore it does have a view out. A metaphysics of Quality does of course exist relatively since we create it as a descrpition. In other words we objectify Quality. Nothing wrong with that so long as we know what we are doing and don't take all of this literally. Metaphysics is just tricks with words. Now you see it now you don't. It is a ghost of reason. Over and out, Mark On 7/8/12, Andre Broersen <[email protected]> wrote: > Anthony said to Andre: > > I'm not too sure Andre.? If was to rewrite "Man is the measure of all > things" in MOQ Terms, I'd say "Human beings are the measure of all static > patterns".? It's not as catchy as the original though! > > Andre: > That's fair enough Anthony. My simple reasoning was along the lines of: > since 'We','Human beings','Man' are static patterns of quality capable of > apprehending DQ (Dq/sq) 'we' are the measure of all things (sq). Put them > together and you get 'Dq/sq is the measure of all things (sq). Tat Tvam > Asi. > > But maybe I'm way off... . > > Thanks Anthony. > Andre > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
