On 7/23/12 11:15 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> [Jan Anders]
>> the victims use biological strategies. They run like stupid chickens and
>> every individual becomes an easy target. If
>> they instead stick together and act socially they can overrun the villain in
>> seconds.
> 
> It depends on the dynamics.  If it is possible to disperse far enough & fast
> enough, "flight" is the best option.
> If not, "fight" is the best option (either individually or jointly).  But this
> is independent of the biological/social
> distinction.  If the decision is made without reasoning, it is biological; if
> it is made by ritual, it is social;
> if it is made with reasoning, it is intellectual.

[Dave]
To which I would add in a dynamic instance like this any attempt to separate
one realm or their interactions from the other is impossible. Even after the
fact. 

In fact I think one of the weakness of Pirsig's ideas is that it can lead
people to believe that for instance emotions (supposedly exclusive to the
biological level) have no effect on reasoning (supposedly exclusive to the
intellectual level) when in the heat of the moment (even a calm
contemplative moment) they all may have some influence on decisions. 


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