dmb,

>From LILA's CHILD:
"The MOQ sees emotions as a biological response to quality and not the same 
thing as quality."

Rah, rah!  Is this textual evidence too?  


Marsha 



On Jul 29, 2012, at 5:04 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Dave Thomas said: 
> ...I think one of the weakness of Pirsig's ideas is that it can lead people 
> to believe that for instance emotions (supposedly exclusive to the biological 
> level) have no effect on reasoning (supposedly exclusive to the intellectual 
> level) when in the heat of the moment (even a calm contemplative moment) they 
> all may have some influence on decisions.
> 
> dmb says:
> Pirsig can lead people to believe that emotions have no effect on reasoning? 
> I think it's pretty clear that Pirsig meant to lead people to believe exactly 
> the opposite. The notion that passions and emotions cloud our judgement goes 
> all the way back to Plato, at least, and we find this in the Modern 
> philosophical admiration for interested observation and in scientific 
> objectivity but that's what Pirsig is attacking, NOT promoting. He says it 
> many times and in many ways but the following quote gets right to the point...
> 
> 
> "In the past our common universe of reason has been in the process of 
> escaping, rejecting the romantic, irrational world of prehistoric man. It's 
> been necessary since before the time of Socrates to reject the passions, the 
> emotions, in order to free the rational mind for an understanding of nature's 
> order which was as yet unknown. Now it's time to further an understanding of 
> nature's order by reassimilating those passions which were originally fled 
> from. The passions, the emotions, the affective domain of man's 
> consciousness, are a part of nature's order too. The central part."  (ZAMM p. 
> 294)
> 
> 
> Rah, rah. Three cheers for reading comprehension and textual evidence!
> 
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