oh sarcasm, a judical response to what I wrote, ok Past patterns are past moral judgements are they not? You judge allright, but what you are saying is that you do not cling to those judgements as "real". Now you are being a bit more honost in your meaning and dialog Thank you
________________________________ From: MarshaV <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 4:32 AM Subject: Re: [MD] It's all an analogy. Does this change anything? On Aug 8, 2012, at 12:36 AM, X Acto wrote: > Marsha, > You stated that your understanding is "reality is anything you think" . Don't be foolish. That was a bit of a sarcastic reaction to the situation of your commenting to me that I WAS 'being dishonest' and actually DO 'judge you.' Patterns, when not paying attention, are what we think and by default become our reality. Most people accept the thoughts that go through their mind as reality, but those thoughts are nothing but bits and pieces of past patterns. What else could they be? Static patterns are all that we can know: static reality. That includes knowing that St. Petersburg is in Russia as well as Marsha is acting like Lucy. Thinking of me as Lucy is your pattern. It probably makes you feel good. What else could it be but static value, your "reality". Do you think your patterns are just the "good stuff"? What do you think was the source of your original post to me? Do you think your reaction was my pattern, and not yours? Did you not experience your reaction to me as "reality"? It's mostly nonsense. If I momentarily feel pain when I sit on the hot stove, does the stove become a bastard? I'm a radical skeptic, and static patterns are really interesting to me. They might be mistaken, by me, as my reality, as real so I pay attention. That's why I watch them, analyze them, so they are seen for what they are: nothing much, illusion. My reality has become nothing much but looking anew. I don't pass judgement on you. Nor do I accept your judgements. It's all dust in the wind. For me it is all about static quality and to the extent we blindly accept static patterns we are not free. It's about Value(static and Dynamic), it is not about Marsha or Ron or Lucy or X Acto. Marsha > > I replied that your understanding neglects Quality. > > Now, you claimed not to judge me. I stated that I feel differently, that you > most certainly judge me and I now > would like to add, so much so that you do not really read what I write. > > The question I have is, how did you get the idea that I stated that judgement > preceeds experience, just where did > I say such a thing? > > -puzzled > > From: MarshaV <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 12:02 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] It's all an analogy. Does this change anything? > > > Ron, > > I am ignoring value not at all! Value is immediate; later comes the > judgements. It's about the experience and letting it go. There is no reason > why an experience needs to proceed to become a judgement. The experience is > immediate, the judgement may be assigned later, or not. > > > Marsha > > > > On Aug 7, 2012, at 11:27 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > >> your understanding neglects Quality >> >> >> From: MarshaV <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [MD] It's all an analogy. Does this change anything? >> >> >> Ron, >> >> Oh, sure, I understand; reality is whatever you think. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:39 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> You most certainly do. >>> >>> >>> Again, it's about honosty Marsha. >>> >>> >>> >>> .. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: MarshaV <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 4:40 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MD] It's all an analogy. Does this change anything? >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron, >>> >>> I don't judge you. >>> >>> >>> Marsha. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:22 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I just fail to understand why, time and time again, you extend an open >>>> invitation for >>>> a discussion then dismiss,evade and ridicule anyone that accepts that >>>> invitation. >>>> >>>> Its not that you are stupid or even inappropriate and chalking up that >>>> behaviour to being >>>> "imperfect" and "human" does not even begin to explain nor account for the >>>> sort of imaturity >>>> and rudeness it exhibits. >>>> >>>> It reaks of a kind of narcisism that a 14yr old would be uncomfortable >>>> with. >>>> >>>> And I'm not much beyond the maturity of a 14yr old. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: MarshaV <[email protected]> >>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 9:58 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [MD] It's all an analogy. Does this change anything? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> You are correct again. I am sometimes inappropriate and stupid, but if I >>>> didn't allow myself to expose such vulnerabilities, I wouldn't be human. >>>> I am human and imperfect, and I care about other imperfect humans. It is >>>> what it is. I am sorry that you are offended. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:43 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marsha, >>>>> You are wonderful!! you are so wise! you really showed him! you are so >>>>> highly intelligent >>>>> and selfless! I'm in awe of your genius! I want to be just like you. I >>>>> think we should all stop posting >>>>> and just read what you have to say about everything!! 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