Ron, I didn't present them for other than your consideration. I am only interested in #1 and #2, though #2 should have been good, not good neutral. You calling me dishonest, Lucy, social or anything else doesn't really concern me. I will not judge you. I consider you a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent, impermanent and conceptualized static patterns of inorganic, biological, social and intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality, though some patterns are better than others.
Marsha On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:31 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > > Marsha, > I think I am using the term judgement in a more general sense than you are. > I think you are using it in a social level context. Whereas I am using it as > interchangable > with the term value. As in: Our bodies biologicaly judge the hot stove to be > of poor > quality and move toward a higher quality environment. Then what we are > disagreeing > about is types of judgement. > > Consider these four slightly different events: > > > > 1. Value - the differentiation. Ron:(biological judgement) > > 2. Evaluation - good or not good. Ron:(the act of judgement in general terms) > > 3. Judgement - "You dirty rat!". (social judgement) > > 4. Ego judgement - assigning attribute 'rat' as permanent attribute of > other: "Ron is a rat.". > (social judgement [dogma/prejudice]) > > Ron adds: > In this way you can make an arguement that I was using social level > judgements to criticize > what I considered to be intellectual dishonosty which is a lower quality > social pattern than > intellectual honosty a higher quality social pattern. Intellectual quality > concerns the good of humanity > which is intimately linked to clarity in meaning. Making rhetoric closely > tied and related to judgement > and in turn what we understand as value. Leaving my explanation for my > reasons for criticizing you. > I feel your posts are often intellectually and socially immoral and I feel > they stem from low level > social patterns. (emphasis based in biological Quality). > But the fun of contributing is to discuss such things and to develop the > explanations and reasons > for judgements > Note also to Mark if he is reading along, this was a use of the four levels > in a rhetorical explanation > as to why I feel the way I do and judge the way I do. I admit I must work on > a better way to express > the way I feel, but I'm getting better. I believe, OR atleast working towards > that goal. > > thanks for reading > > .. > > > > .. > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
