Marsha, I think I am using the term judgement in a more general sense than you are. I think you are using it in a social level context. Whereas I am using it as interchangable with the term value. As in: Our bodies biologicaly judge the hot stove to be of poor quality and move toward a higher quality environment. Then what we are disagreeing about is types of judgement.
Consider these four slightly different events: 1. Value - the differentiation. Ron:(biological judgement) 2. Evaluation - good or not good. Ron:(the act of judgement in general terms) 3. Judgement - "You dirty rat!". (social judgement) 4. Ego judgement - assigning attribute 'rat' as permanent attribute of other: "Ron is a rat.". (social judgement [dogma/prejudice]) Ron adds: In this way you can make an arguement that I was using social level judgements to criticize what I considered to be intellectual dishonosty which is a lower quality social pattern than intellectual honosty a higher quality social pattern. Intellectual quality concerns the good of humanity which is intimately linked to clarity in meaning. Making rhetoric closely tied and related to judgement and in turn what we understand as value. Leaving my explanation for my reasons for criticizing you. I feel your posts are often intellectually and socially immoral and I feel they stem from low level social patterns. (emphasis based in biological Quality). But the fun of contributing is to discuss such things and to develop the explanations and reasons for judgements Note also to Mark if he is reading along, this was a use of the four levels in a rhetorical explanation as to why I feel the way I do and judge the way I do. I admit I must work on a better way to express the way I feel, but I'm getting better. I believe, OR atleast working towards that goal. thanks for reading .. .. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
