Marsha to dmb:
Further, I am not insisting, nor even suggesting, that you, or anyone,
adopt my position,...

Andre:
I think you need not worry about that Marsha as this position you have
adopted is quite ridiculous and very un-Pirsig's MoQ. You keep on
having difficulties with the intellectual level. You keep on bringing
up this reification bit, you keep bringing up this ' object of
knowledge bit' , you keep on bringing up this static is ultimately
empty bit.
You keep on holding on to the static is none other than dynamic, the
term ' latching'  is something you do not accept nor understand. Your
definition of static patterns of quality is still a mess wrought with
confusion and contradiction. Low quality means ' insignificant'. To
you intellect is still SOM (a la Bodvar) and it shows now that you
find everything to be ' hypothetical' ...except that you MIGHT make an
exception to the idea that the world is nothing but value...
perhaps... hypothetically speaking. This is an embarrassing statement
to make on a discuss devoted to the work of Pirsig.

I am convinced that you are still convinced that the MoQ IS Experience
(again a la Bodvar)!

And your defense continues to be that ' in philosophy there are as
many of 'truths', on any given topic, as there are stars in the
sky....and this shows that you do not even know the difference between
'opinion'  and ' truth' .

You my dear are some screwed up lady. It seems to me that your efforts
at distorting, redefining and rehashing are the result of a
perspective that is as yet incapable of comprehending (intellectually)
the very basics of Pirsig's MoQ idea. It is the perspective which a
child goes through and hopefully grows out of at a not too old an age:
rebellious, egotistic, egocentric and very narcissistic ( look at me I
am soooo special).

Please do not shove your intellectual incompetencies off on a discuss
such as this Marsha. Your posts are annoyingly embarrassing. Afraid
somebody here might adopt your position??? Pfff, talking about ego!

What a laugh.
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