Yup, and so does speaking. We exchange awareness. The only way to do that is to make little packages that we can give someone else. This is the transfer of subjectivity through objectivity. Once received by the listener they return to subjectivity. The objective is a temporary embodiment which has no value on its own. We create that value, we bring the objective to life. Words are just words.
Mark On Dec 9, 2012, at 6:55 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > There! > > "Writing separates the knower from the known and thus sets up conditions for > 'objectivity', in the sense of personal disengagement or distancing." > > (Ong, Walter J., 'Orality and Literacy', p. 45) > > > --- > > On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:11 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Again, > > Yes, indeedy, it seems obvious that the line between the social and > intellectual levels can be located in the transition from an oral tradition > to a written tradition. > > So exciting to see it... > > Can you even imagine what it would be like not to able to look something up? > > > Marsha > > > > --- > > On Dec 9, 2012, at 3:55 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Greetings, > > I am only into the third chapter, but this seems a great book for those who > are interested in the ancient Greek philosophers and/or the study of > language. It may also present a path of reconciliation between those on the > MD and those on the LS without much sacrifice. And wouldn't that be a > feather in one's cap. > > > Marsha > > > --- > > On Dec 8, 2012, at 4:32 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Greetings, > > Marsha: > I found an interesting book which may provide some interesting information > pertaining to the split between the social level and the intellectual level. > How the fleeting oral tradition became a more substantial, objectified > written tradition. > > Orality and Literacy > by Walter J. Ong > > Book Description: > "This classic work explores the vast differences between oral and literate > cultures offering a very clear account of the intellectual, literary and > social effects of writing, print and electronic technology. > > "In the course of his study, Walter J. Ong offers fascinating insights into > oral genres across the globe and through time, and examines the rise of > abstract philosophical and scientific thinking. He considers the impact of > orality-literacy studies not only on literary criticism and theory but on our > very understanding of what it is to be a human being, conscious of self and > other. > > "This is a book no reader, writer or speaker should be without." > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415281296/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
