Hi Ron, On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:21 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> There! >> >> "Writing separates the knower from the known and thus sets up conditions for >> 'objectivity', in the sense of personal disengagement or distancing." >> >> (Ong, Walter J., 'Orality and Literacy', p. 45) > > "It sets up the conditions" seems a far cry from the idea that SOM IS > Intellect. I dont think there is much > of an arguement about the tendancy to reify concepts because it has also been > asserted that reification > extends to any concept formed, which muddies the water concerning any hard > defined intellectual level. > I think the trap is in trying to define the intellectual level in terms of > historical evolution, when it is > probably best defined as an aspect of experience a type of value. I then > think it can be understood > historically as a cultural value that gained promenance during the rise of > the ancient Greek Hellenic empire. > SOM then is best understood as a cultural value rather than an evolutionary > level. > > > ..Trying to mend the gap is a nobel gesture but the consequences of holding > one vs the other is so great > as to almost being direct opposites in meaning. If you are stuck in an either-or, us-against-them frame of mind, then obviously there are no other alternatives. It's a good book presenting some interesting ideas concerning the shift from an oral tradition to a written tradition. I thought you, and possibly Arlo, might find it valuable. But read it, don't read, that would be up to you. Marsha Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
