On 3/1/13 8:00 AM, "Jan-Anders Andersson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> [DMB] > The pattern "banana" doesn't cause the experience, the experience >> causes the banana. >> [Arlo] > Absolutely, and well said. This is about as >> *critical* a point about Pirsig's ideas as one could make. > > "This means >> Quality is not just the result of a collision between subject and object. The >> very existence of subject and object themselves is deduced from the Quality >> event. The Quality event is the cause of the subjects and objects, which are >> then mistakenly presumed to be the cause of the Quality!" (ZMM) > > "The >> past exists only in our memories, the future only in our plans. The present >> is our only reality. The tree that you are aware of intellectually, because >> of that small time lag, is always in the past and therefore is always unreal. >> Any intellectually conceived object is always in the past and therefore >> unreal. Reality is always the moment of vision before the intellectualization >> takes place. There is no other reality. This preintellectual reality is what >> Phædrus felt he had properly identified as Quality. Since all intellectually >> identifiable things must emerge from this preintellectual reality, Quality is >> the parent, the source of all subjects and objects." (ZMM) Overheard on the set of "The Lion King." "Simba, finish your English lessons before we all starve to death!" Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
