" From memory man gains experience; often remembering he aquires the power of 
unified experience."
"Art is born when out of the many bits of information derived from experience 
there emerges a grasp
of those similarities in view of which they are a unified whole."
 
"Experience, like action or production, deals with things severally as concrete 
individuals whereas art deals
with them generally."
 
"someone lacking experience, but knowing the gerneral principles of the art, 
will often miss the mark
by overlooking the individual within the whole"
 
"Never the less, we believe that knowing and understanding characterize art 
rather than experience."
 
Aristotle book Alpha Metaphysics
 
 
I think what I most admire about the ancient greeks is their veneration of 
critical thought. If we gain
nothing else in our discussions we should take away that all these thinkers 
fostered critical thinking.
 
Socrates to Pirsig, it's about criticale thinking, east to west, north to south.
 
Some great topics, and some very readable posts, thanks guys.
 
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