Sure, I'd like to know what's not related to either amount, form or interaction. Any idea?
J.A 20 mar 2013 kl. 10.54 MarshaV wrote: > > J-A, > > I take it that people come to this list because there is value in being here > and exploring RMP's ideas. > > As I mentioned to you offlist, I am happy that you have found a point-of-view > and language in which to interpret Mr. Pirsig's words from ZAMM, LILA, and > elsewhere, that work for you. (Your book was fascinating.) Your > interpretation (and language: amount, form and interaction), though, is not > an absolute interpretation, but one amongst many as we each filter RMP's > ideas and words through our own history and experience and interests. > > > Marsha > > > On Mar 20, 2013, at 4:28 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Marsha >> >> What can be said? >> >> I think this is what Lila (and ZAMM) is about. Also, I wrote a book called >> "Money and the Art of Losing Control", which you have read twice, at least. >> In that book there are numerous of hints to how to understand Dynamic >> Quality. >> Excellence is an act of balance, therefore DQ is impossible to define in any >> other way than trying to stay on the line as long as possible. >> It is an act of balance in three aspects of DQ; Amount, Form and >> Interaction. Yes, these are Static patterns but they stem from different >> aspects OF Dynamic Quality. >> 1. Dynamic Quality IS, as we can prove its Impact upon Static Quality. DQ is >> just enough, too, or SQ will expand or diminish. >> 2. DQ has Form as it causes Differences, different Values, different static >> patterns, both this and that as it is impossible to define completely.... >> 3. DQ Interacts with SQ or there would be no experience at all. >> >> DQ creates (and destroys) static patterns at the inorganic level. >> DQ creates (and destroys) static patterns at the organic level. >> DQ creates (and destroys) static patterns at the social level. >> DQ creates (and destroys) static patterns at the intellectual level. >> >> Rock stars and political ideas come and go. Polticians who doesn't know the >> difference between organic and social values tend to choose the wrong tool >> to maintain their society. Motorcycle repair men who doesn't know the >> difference between material and social qualities appear quite odd to the >> customer. >> >> Contributors to this forum (MD) with a lack of humbleness tend to be >> seriously beaten literally, but words doesn't hurt, or? >> >> I think pottery is fine quality excercise. It's heavy but not too heavy, >> it's plastic and hard, and it can be used. 1,2, 3. >> >> Best wishes >> >> JanAnders >> >> 20 mar 2013 kl. 08.44 MarshaV wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi J-A, >>> >>> I am not saying anything about that which is "indivisible, undefinable & >>> unknowable". I, personally, wouldn't label it 'experience' either; though >>> it is present in every experience. I understand Dynamic Quality to >>> represent the non-dualistic. And what can be said of the non-dualistic? >>> What can be said of what is beyond the recognition of the five senses and >>> mind? Not this, not that... >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:14 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Marsha, >>>> >>>> Do you mean with that last sentence that Dynamic Quality is also beyond >>>> morals? >>>> >>>> J_A >>>> >>>> >>>> 17 mar 2013 kl. 10.40 skrev MarshaV: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> J-A, >>>>> >>>>> As I see it, if you are asking if the static (patterned) value projected >>>>> onto Dynamic Quality is low or high, I would say that it is so relative >>>>> to the context grounding the event. In one context the static value may >>>>> be judged (by a human being) as high, in another context the static value >>>>> may be judged as low. Either way, the Dynamic Quality remains >>>>> indivisible, undefinable & unknowable and beyond judgements. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marsha >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 17, 2013, at 5:23 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Machinery (inorganic) wins over nature (organic), but the machinery uses >>>>>> more exergy to cut the vegetation than it takes to grow so I think >>>>>> nature will win eventually. >>>>>> >>>>>> Besides, it looks terrible after these machines have passed by, it >>>>>> doesn't cut but crushes the grass and trees. All the leftovers are >>>>>> leaved to rot on the surface so instead of driving in the green you get >>>>>> the feeling of running along a dirt track. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that of high or low dynamic quality? >>>>>> >>>>>> J A >>>>>> >>>>>> 17 mar 2013 kl. 09:10 skrev MarshaV <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You cannot please all the people all the time, so let's try this >>>>>>> technological quality: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/embed/L3j6HaAieEU?rel=0 >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
