Hi J-A, Like I said, I am happy for you. But some things work for an individual, and others do not. For example, rather than participate in meditation and/or mindfulness (introspective investigation), you indicated you prefer to play your accordion. Fine. I prefer to keep things simple and I'm perfectly content with static (patterned) value. At the moment I do not need the additional explanation concerning form, amount and interaction.
Marsha On Mar 20, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> wrote: > Sure, I'd like to know what's not related to either amount, form or > interaction. Any idea? > > J.A > > > 20 mar 2013 kl. 10.54 MarshaV wrote: > >> >> J-A, >> >> I take it that people come to this list because there is value in being here >> and exploring RMP's ideas. >> >> As I mentioned to you offlist, I am happy that you have found a >> point-of-view and language in which to interpret Mr. Pirsig's words from >> ZAMM, LILA, and elsewhere, that work for you. (Your book was fascinating.) >> Your interpretation (and language: amount, form and interaction), though, is >> not an absolute interpretation, but one amongst many as we each filter RMP's >> ideas and words through our own history and experience and interests. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> On Mar 20, 2013, at 4:28 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Marsha >>> >>> What can be said? >>> >>> I think this is what Lila (and ZAMM) is about. Also, I wrote a book called >>> "Money and the Art of Losing Control", which you have read twice, at least. >>> In that book there are numerous of hints to how to understand Dynamic >>> Quality. >>> Excellence is an act of balance, therefore DQ is impossible to define in >>> any other way than trying to stay on the line as long as possible. >>> It is an act of balance in three aspects of DQ; Amount, Form and >>> Interaction. Yes, these are Static patterns but they stem from different >>> aspects OF Dynamic Quality. >>> 1. Dynamic Quality IS, as we can prove its Impact upon Static Quality. DQ >>> is just enough, too, or SQ will expand or diminish. >>> 2. DQ has Form as it causes Differences, different Values, different static >>> patterns, both this and that as it is impossible to define completely.... >>> 3. DQ Interacts with SQ or there would be no experience at all. >>> >>> DQ creates (and destroys) static patterns at the inorganic level. >>> DQ creates (and destroys) static patterns at the organic level. >>> DQ creates (and destroys) static patterns at the social level. >>> DQ creates (and destroys) static patterns at the intellectual level. >>> >>> Rock stars and political ideas come and go. Polticians who doesn't know the >>> difference between organic and social values tend to choose the wrong tool >>> to maintain their society. Motorcycle repair men who doesn't know the >>> difference between material and social qualities appear quite odd to the >>> customer. >>> >>> Contributors to this forum (MD) with a lack of humbleness tend to be >>> seriously beaten literally, but words doesn't hurt, or? >>> >>> I think pottery is fine quality excercise. It's heavy but not too heavy, >>> it's plastic and hard, and it can be used. 1,2, 3. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> JanAnders >>> >>> 20 mar 2013 kl. 08.44 MarshaV wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi J-A, >>>> >>>> I am not saying anything about that which is "indivisible, undefinable & >>>> unknowable". I, personally, wouldn't label it 'experience' either; though >>>> it is present in every experience. I understand Dynamic Quality to >>>> represent the non-dualistic. And what can be said of the non-dualistic? >>>> What can be said of what is beyond the recognition of the five senses and >>>> mind? Not this, not that... >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:14 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Marsha, >>>>> >>>>> Do you mean with that last sentence that Dynamic Quality is also beyond >>>>> morals? >>>>> >>>>> J_A >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 17 mar 2013 kl. 10.40 skrev MarshaV: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> J-A, >>>>>> >>>>>> As I see it, if you are asking if the static (patterned) value projected >>>>>> onto Dynamic Quality is low or high, I would say that it is so relative >>>>>> to the context grounding the event. In one context the static value may >>>>>> be judged (by a human being) as high, in another context the static >>>>>> value may be judged as low. Either way, the Dynamic Quality remains >>>>>> indivisible, undefinable & unknowable and beyond judgements. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marsha >>>>>> >>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
