Hello David, First thing on my desk that caught my eye, a pack of x-acto blades. I dont use my name in the address to reduce my electronic footprint. -Ron
David Harding <[email protected]> wrote: >Hi Ron, > >I'm David - pleased to meet you. Why do you call yourself X Acto? > >-David. > >On 02/04/2013, at 1:35 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> Dan wrote previously: >> >> "Also, I do not believe I ever said experience is DQ. That is something you >> said I said. No, I said in the MOQ, Dynamic Quality and experience become >> synonymous. There is a difference and this might be the block over which you >> are stumbling. Or not." >> >> websters dictionary says: >> Synonym >> A word having the same meaning as another in the language. >> >> I think that is a difficult rhetorical slight of hand to pull off, saying >> that two words are synonymous yet they have >> a difference in meaning. Id say thats a stumbling block. Bullshit usually is. >> >> >> Like this collection of solopsic drivel: >> >> >>> Dan: >>> As I said, I am whatever you think I am or what you wish me to be. >>> >>> I have nothing to teach. >> >> Dan: >>>>> As I said, whatever you think I am, I am. I exist in your imagination. >> >> [Ron] >> Well Dave Hardings Dan must be alot nicer than the Dan whos words I read. >> That Dan >> is a prick that does not mean what he says. >> But lets get to the point of the matter and leave the rhetorical undulations >> to avoid any responsibility >> for what is being said alone for the moment. >> >> Dan: >> You insist that according to the MOQ we experience static quality. You've >> lifted quotes from Lila to bolster that opinion and yet you fail to see >> where such a notion leads: right back to subjects observing objects as >> primary values. >> >> Ron: >> Sounds and smells like a strawman Dan. If you would actually try to see >> Dave's point, >> he is only echoing Pirsig by stating that experience is divided into Static >> and Dynamic Qualities. >> The dynamic aspect holding primacy in process, which co-incides with James's >> "pure experience". >> >> "We constantly seek to find, in the Quality event, >> analogues to our previous experiences. If we didn't we'd be unable to act. >> ." [RMP] >> >> we would be unable to respond to DQ and responding to DQ is the process of >> experience. >> Therefore Static Quality is a necessity for an organism to respond to it's >> environment. >> Or we'd just keep sizzelin on the hot stove, no distinction, no value. >> >> Now when Pirsig expands on this initial statement, he explains that the >> Dynamic aspect of experience >> is more immediate and the Static secondary but make no mistake that he is >> talking about values, Dynamic >> and Static values. >> >> The problem for Dan IS: >> Now you want to say that Dynamic Quality is not this not that, it is'nt >> anything, DQ >> is indefinable and "VALUE-LESS" THEN you insist that DQ and experience are >> SYNONYMOUS, both terms MEAN the SAME thing, thats what synonymous >> means. By doing this YOU are the one failing to understand the consequences >> of >> this assertion, you are insisting that experience is value-less in a >> explanation that >> holds VALUE as the CENTER of experience! >> >> I know, I know you never said any of it, you don't exist, your not a >> philosopher.. >> I'm not disagreeing with you I'm disagreeing with the MoQ. ect...ect.. >> insert spineless disclaimer here. >> .. >> >> .. >> >> >> >> . >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
