But the point, Marsha, with using a concept, a static pattern about stability 
is to point at something that does NOT change.

You seem to call for something stable and unchanged about your own view when 
you say; "I have pointed out many times", don't you? Or are you able to change 
your own opinion, too?

Or why should you burn the clay?

J A


14 apr 2013 kl. 08.43 skrev MarshaV:

> 
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> Dynamic Quality is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable - unpatterned.  
> There is nothing differentiable within Dynamic Quality to be changing; it is 
> static patterns that change.   
> 
> "It’s fairly obvious from reading Pirsig’s texts that SOM is perceived by him 
> as an example of ignorant thinking. Briefly, this is due to such systems 
> ignoring the reality of Dynamic Quality. Why this is particularly ignorant is 
> explained by the ‘Three Aspects’ of the Cittamatra school of Mahayana 
> Buddhism.  Williams (1988, p.83) states that the First Aspect refers to the 
> falsifying activity of language which implies independent and permanent 
> existence to things. As Hagen -202- (1997, p.30) notes, one of the most 
> fundamental truths noted by the Buddha is that all aspects of our experience 
> are in constant flux and change. According to the Buddha, when a person 
> ignores this truth they subject themselves to dukkha."
> 
> -202- Pirsig (1998b) notes that Hagen‘s text Buddhism: Plain & Simple ‘…shows 
> the similarities, between the MOQ and Zen Buddhism more clearly than any 
> other I have seen.’ "
> 
>  (McWatts, MoQ Textbook) 
> 
> Marsha:
> I have pointed out many times, it is not anti-intellectual or a contradiction 
> to understand that patterns may maintain a static, stable identity at the 
> same time as they and their context are undergoing constant change. Think of 
> the Ship of Theseus, or a parade (Hume) where everyone drops out but is 
> replaced so that the parade is maintained, or the body with its cells 
> constantly being replaced.  Things can change - flow - and yet have 
> permanence; think of a river.
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
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