dmb said:
But seriously, David. I thought your "overall point" was dead and buried long 
ago. Sorry, I just think you're making no sense and quite vaguely too. Maybe 
you'd like to demonstrate this method of "considering values". Show us how one 
looks at Marsha's values apart from the considerations of intellectual 
coherence. Use Marsha's favorite salad of words for an example, please. You 
know, the one she repeats so often and in which she describes static patterns 
as "ever-changing".  For the sake of argument, I'll pretend that the 
intellectual values (or lack thereof) don't merit consideration while you do 
what you're telling me to do. Show me what it is. I honestly can't imagine how 
that would actually work.

djh responds:
..."As I keep explaining - I think that it is Marsha's extreme love of *DQ* 
which is destroying her ability to appreciate the 'staticness' of intellectual 
values. 



dmb says:
Sigh.

Yea, Marsha uses her love of DQ to shit on intellectual values. Obviously. And 
stating the obvious helps how, exactly? Seriously, David, you cannot possibly 
believe that this is news to anyone.

I think this shows that your suggestion is quite worthless. Would you like to 
show me something that isn't already in plain sight? Or would you prefer to 
continue with the vague and useless platitudes?

Concepts and reality, David. They are two different things. This is the point 
you're not getting and you've now painted yourself into the same paralyzing, 
anti-intellectual corner. Fair warning; people get stuck in this corner for 
years.




                                          
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